Gene I have been doing it for 30 years consistently, the difference is: I am a small time player, and I won't play on the tables with 6 deck shoes. I restrict myself to single and double decks, I play small amounts, and only for recreation...but there was a time in the late 60's and mid 70's that I harvested a few bucks...The other thing is I did not ever intend on making the big bucks, get noticed, or play on a team...I played with one partner occasionly. It can be done, I did not like being shuffled up on, or having rude dealers, or being questioned by the floormen, so I have alway kept a low profile. In my early years there was not a dealer that could deal faster than I could count. I still enjoy a quick go around on a single or double deck when I find them...Did it in Biloxi at Treasure Bay a couple months ago...Reggie