I have no answer to your question Archie. 95% of the PACK family are members of the CC>CC. The other few are shoebox collectors, not really serious about joining a main club. They have this hobby which fills hours in their day, and gives them something new to look forward to. Nothing more or less. Look at any pack, and you see the strong along with the weak. Right now I am trying to take care of some of those who need me. (some are even new to the hobby) I myself am not a leader, just someone who wants to help and encourage others while having a whole PACK of FUN!!!!. Come on Archie---don't be a lone wolf...run with the PACK. I would welcome you with open arms. Pat