I loved your comment at the end, "I hate this game so much. Hmmm....wonder if I have time for another before bed?" lol CLASSIC & I do that all the time! Brian's post is excelent and I know as a fact that they "STARS & all the others" manipulate the games all day long. That is why I only play the low stakes games and stay away from the big money. I is great practice and I love it as a pastime. Mr. Spragg's post is also true but I have noticed that if I am dominating a table really good...poof...YOU HAVE BEEN MOVED TO ANOTHER TABLE... and I know the cold deck is comming and it is comming for me soon. I know what is about to happen and they know I am going to be aggressive...so why can I not just toss the pocket aces? No not me and them poof... I am gone. It just happened tonight. BUT...I hate this game so much. Hmmm....wonder if I have time for another before bed?