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Re: Fraud
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1) Well, this is a huge mis-statement (over simplification) of the law. You know it, so I won't even discuss that here. You may believe in strict textualism (or not), but I am sure you have run into judges that don't.

2) Is that true in all areas that have casinos/card clubs? California, Connecticut, Atlantic City. Second, where does the HPA mention the word, "collectibles"? I think it's irrelevant to the statute. It does include the word "tokens".

I am no expert. Neither are you. The statute has not been sufficiently tested to know what it includes. I have a case in front of me that says it is to be liberally construed, however. So much for strict textualism. In any case, I am not arguing that they are covered, just that we don't know. If you say you do, show me proof.

Michael Siskin

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Does anyone have a cite for the HPA?
Here's a link...
Thank you Mark
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I'm pretty certain the HPA does not ...
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It's quite clear the terms "coinage" and "issue"
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I would say no to #1 and unsure to #2
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Archie, can you show us where the FTC ...
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I couldn't find it on the club board, either.
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Didn't it mention "Hobby Protection Act" John?
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Please read this and rethink your previous post
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See §2101... it says it all
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No question about it
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Casino Chips as Trade Tokens
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Nope. "Trade Tokens" are not part of a coinage.
Webster's defines "commerce" well.
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I will check it tomorrow...
"Commerce" as defined in Black's Law Dictionary
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For those interested...
Strange
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I believe you will find that is up to
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Spot on. I can say no more grin
The HPA is a federal law
Correct. Its like a lucky dip grin
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We won't know until it hits the courts
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I have no idea what you are arguing
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There we go! That's what I was looking for.
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Me too!
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Your research is flawed.
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A/C was not lone ranger on Susan B dollars...
I don't collect Lone Ranger tokens ... grin
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You guys lost me about 2 threads into this....
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Aaron?
David??
Uncle Tom Cobley??
Michael??
Archie??
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Yup, its there
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Wow!
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Black's Law Dictionary definition of "Fraud"
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