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Re: Another hypothetical Scenario
In Response To: A Scenario for Fraud ()

Party A: A chip dealer finds a chip in a junk box at another dealer's table which has been damaged.
An obvious cancellation hole is in the center and it is missing a center inlay.

Party B: Purchases the chip knowing it has been discounted because it has been cancelled by the casino to make it worthless and unredeemable. But she has a friend who can make seemingly undectectable repairs and no one will see this chip as it's going into her personal collection.

Party C: The friend fills in the hole (for a fee) and replaces the center inlays with two inlays from another chip because she was unable match the one missing.

Party B; After a period of time the chip collector dies and the surviving non-collector mate decides to sell the collection, which includes the forgery chip, to an auction house on consignment.

Party D: The Auction house lists the chip in their sale catalog

Party E: Sees the chip and recognizes it from a photo in a well-respected "Official" reference book (Party F ) that it resembles a chip that is valued in the neighborhood of four figures. Party E purchases the chip and lists it on a major auction web-site (Party G) as a rare chip using the reference catalog number and value in the listing process.

Party H: wins the chip in the in the auction, then finds it is not the true chip listed in the well known catalog ... but a fake ... a reconstructed forgery.
She sues all of the parties naming them “Singularly and Severally” as defendants.

All have obviously been involved in a fraud. You be the jury. Which parties are guilty of committing fraud?

A B C D E F G H

Footnote; It is learned through hypothetical court testimony that party "C" has been involved in many, many, repairs of previously cancelled and damaged chips and has been fixing them for a fee for several undisclosed "friends" for some time now.

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"Which parties are guilty of committing fraud?"
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I agree only E for fraud
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So, your telling me that the Princess Di T Shirt
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Or is it because they are
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Fraud
Does anyone have a cite for the HPA?
Here's a link...
Thank you Mark
Addtional info links ...
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I'm pretty certain the HPA does not ...
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It's quite clear the terms "coinage" and "issue"
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I would say no to #1 and unsure to #2
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Archie, can you show us where the FTC ...
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I couldn't find it on the club board, either.
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Didn't it mention "Hobby Protection Act" John?
Re: Didn't it mention "Hobby Protection Act" John?
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Please read this and rethink your previous post
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See §2101... it says it all
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No question about it
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rofl So you mean that ... rofl
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Casino Chips as Trade Tokens
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Nope. "Trade Tokens" are not part of a coinage.
Webster's defines "commerce" well.
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I will check it tomorrow...
"Commerce" as defined in Black's Law Dictionary
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For those interested...
Strange
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I believe you will find that is up to
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Spot on. I can say no more grin
The HPA is a federal law
Correct. Its like a lucky dip grin
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We won't know until it hits the courts
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I have no idea what you are arguing
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There we go! That's what I was looking for.
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Me too!
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Your research is flawed.
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A/C was not lone ranger on Susan B dollars...
I don't collect Lone Ranger tokens ... grin
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You guys lost me about 2 threads into this....
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OK - Lets try again - revised scenario
Aaron?
David??
Uncle Tom Cobley??
Michael??
Archie??
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Yup, its there
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Wow!
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Black's Law Dictionary definition of "Fraud"
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