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Norm, why don't you READ the report ...
In Response To: Re: Russell... ()

... it says what the third party told me.

The full report (again!) is at:

http://www.cheqs.net/chips/core3.htm

But, just to make it easy on you, here's what it says:

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"CONFIDENTIAL CLUB MEMBER"

Information received from a club member who has requested his/her name be kept confidential. This is the same person as the "Confidential Club Member" who is cited in David Whalen’s email to Marty Kaplan.

These are excerpts from Jim Reilly’s supplemental report.

1. In response to a call by me to him yesterday, I received a telephone call today from a member of the club who provided the information contained in this report. He provided this information on the condition that his name be kept confidential, a condition to which I agreed. This member did indicate, however, that he would be willing to confirm this information directly to the board so long as the board also agreed to keep his name confidential and not include it in any report regarding this inquiry which is made public.

2. This information relates to the production by David Whalen of a pink $2.50 Harrah's chip at the request of Mel Jung, as previously discussed.

3. This member advised me that he was present during the conversation between David Whalen and Mel Jung regarding the production for Mel of a pink $2.50 Harrah's chip. He told me that his recollection of the events is somewhat hazy, due to the passage of time, but that he did specifically recall the following:

4. During the conversation between David and Mel, Mel asked David to visit another dealer's table to see a $500 pink brass core chip, so that David could see what color Mel wanted his chip made. The confidential member does not recall which dealer Mel referred to, but told me that he only knew of three dealers who had $500 brass core chips, Mel, Armin Pfaender and Walt Gonski. He also does not recall whether or not he went with David to the other dealer's table.

5. The confidential member could not recall the name of the casino from which the $500 chip came, but thought it might be Crystal Bay. In reviewing The Chip Rack, it appears to me that the only casino to have issued a $500 pink brass core is Harvey's, Lake Tahoe. Nor have I discovered any illegitimate $500 brass cores.

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PLEASE NOTE that the information in paragraph 4 above directly contradicts what Mel had to say about this subject and supports what David Whalen told me.

That is in the report, too. This was not a one-on-one case.

My conclusion regarding the 3rd party's information was:

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This additional information does not change my opinion regarding the roles of David Whalen and Mel Jung in this matter. It does, however, reinforce the conclusion stated in Report 2002-01c regarding Mel's conduct:

"In combination, these circumstances compel the conclusion that Mel participated in the production of these 'remanufactured' chips (which in and of itself would not necessarily be an ethical problem) and that he knowingly sold one of them to Dean Porter while representing it as a legitimate chip."

To conclude otherwise would now require finding that either individually or in collusion, David Whalen, Dean Porter and the Confidential Club Member are all lying about a matter which they have to know would create the possibility of significant repercussions for a long-term and well-known member of the club. I have still found no basis upon which to believe that they are doing so.

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To this day, I have heard nothing that changes my opinion on this issue.

----- jim o\-S

Messages In This Thread

Few words about Mel Jung from a friend
Re: Few words about Mel Jung from a friend
Right on AL !!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Few words about Mel Jung from a friend
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My Opinion
WRONG, Charles, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG ...
Re: WRONG, Charles, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG ...
"If you believe Porter" ...
GRRRRRRRRRRRR! mad
I don't get your analogy ...
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Do you think Mel was just laying in the weeds ...
I'll email you sometime Jim sad
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If you're talking about the 2001 ...
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And THAT is a very good point!
Re: WRONG, Charles, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG ...
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Larry, your post warrants ...
Jim...
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Norm, why don't you READ the report ...
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To the extent that my post ...
Thanks.
Now, Charles, are you ready ...
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