...information from a well informed "SOURCE" today.

"The last printed center (inlay) order from Bud Jones made for Circus Circus on the Nevada mold was 1978."
This confirms my statement in another thread concerning Bud started using the 8 suit mold about 1980

"Borland bought the molds in the early 90's."
Duh, who said that in another thread?

"The color of foil may not indicate the age of a chip. When a distributor buys foil, they have a choice of many shades of gold foil.

"What would be an indication of possible counterfeit is 2 different stamping dies. It is highly unlikely that Borland could copy exactly a Bud Jones die. Bud Jones would not have sold the stamping dies to Borland."
I know for a fact that Bud did not sell the dies to Borland. I have seen some that still exsist today.

Steve, wonder where Jimbo went? Maybe we can still get this thread down to blood and guts when he gets out of beddy bye in the AM and after he feeds his horse. He's a beauty, ain't he?