Skip, Are you saying that you overbid on chips in a Chuck Smorse eBay action. Was it one of the Phil Jennsen collection auctions. Also, if you overbid, wasn't there a person bidding with you? Was this person a shill for Chuck. This is all very interesting. Are you also saying that if you were involved in one of Dean's "rare" auctions that he would email you and tell you to stop bidding when the bids got "too" high? This is extremely interesting, please clear things up.