Archie, Bob has just as much right to express his opinion as you do. This is where I HAVE HAD real difficulty with you. You are not willing to accept the fact that others believe the same way Bob does. This is not a pi..ing contest to voice ones opinion. Nor should it be a reason to get mad at anyone. The taking of roulettes is,in spirit, I believe covered by our Constitution. Yet those who collect them feel they can ignore the ethical debate. It is always simple to tell someone to mind their own business. Kinda like an ethical cop out. Why grown individuals cannot discuss this subject without a verbal "riot" means we as an organization need to grow. You as President have an obligation to represent ALL members - even those who take roulettes. Yet you also have an oblication to those who choose not to collect them. But for Gods sake please don't tell members to mind their own business when the discussion involves something you don't like. We do not need to "blow" our top, nor tear the club to pieces simply by expressing to others what we believe. We need YOU to lead that discussion in a civil manner while maintaining order. One of the aspects a President is responsible for. You collect what you want and I will collect what I want - solves nothing!! It postpones the topic until a later time. We know what YOUR position is - now justify it, if you can. Best, Jim