"I've noted in recent threads that I would rather buy an uncleaned example of a chip and even pay more for it if there were two offered (cleaned and uncleaned)"

First off I didn't quote you. Second, from your exact quote above, you agree with what I've said. Third, what about you're mangled interpretation of what I've said. Again from your post: "You are the one who has come on this board commenting that you find it 'humorous' of those who do not clean chips". I'm not sure what that means, but I come on this board because you and others proselytize that what you do is the right way and the rest of us are wrong. Most of the time I hear comparisons with coin collecting. Well I'm not collecting coins. What I do with crest & seals, what Archie calls whizzing, is done most most serious crest & seal collectors. Here is what I do find humorous. People like yourself and Archie that do not collect crest and seals (collect not accumuate c&s for resale purposes) commenting on what c&s collectors do. Whizzing a chip should never be done with a non plain mold chip for obvious reasons. A c&s is different. If you can't see the difference better to just not comment.

BTW, regarding the stimulus bill, here is an exact quote from from you from 2/17: "The polls say it all: Seventy-one percent are happy with the recovery effort signed today..." You mention Gallup.

Can you send me the link?