I have often posted the sun java site for those that don't have V M.

That quote by the way came from the other site you posted.

Yes some of us can download V M even with the new version of X P if you know how to get around the programming. I like it and had a tough time getting it again so Ron did it for me.

All you have managed to do is confuse some who are not as computer literate as you might be.

I don't know why you needed to reply to the first post last night. Many have V M and some have already downloaded Sun Java to get to the chat room . I have been through this a few times and do know what I am doing.