In regard to:

SO just because you have a gun will not always make you the winner.

The fact of the matter is that, flashing a gun around and looking like a fool that doesn't know what to do with it, will probably leave you in a puddle of blood and guts. I think you twisted my words a bit there, Mark.... He pulled his gun just like you did, AND just like you he didn't shoot. Does that mean you also were actinf like a fool? Law enforcement people will tell you that you have to assess the situation and make an immediate decision if deadly force is necessary. That takes training and that is why law enforcement people spend alot of time learning about it. The average citizen needs similair training and usually doesn't get it. ... and you want those SAME people to carry guns? Armed people with no training are as dangerous as the criminal. I gotta' agree there!

Let us all hope that we never need to use deadly force. But let us all do all we can to keep the privilege. ..even those you said were as dangerous as the criminals AND the ones who don't spend a lot of time training? Once that is gone, we will have lost one of the rights this country was founded on. Yea, I know what you mean... I miss shooting Buffalo!

I am more concerned about drunk driving than I am about inappropriate use of a gun. In the area I am in many are killed because of impaired drivers. In Wyoming it is not illegal to eat urinal cakes to impress women(don't laugh)and drink to the point of oblivion. It is illegal to get into a vehicle with a BAC of .37 and go out and kill someone in a grinding wreck. No one arguing that point

This country has many problems, but it is still the best place in the world to live. No argument there either At this point you still have the right to arm yourself responsibily. responsibly? I did not know that was a condition. Because your statements above about other gun carriers Learn to use your weapon and never use it without knowing what you are doing. again not a condition Keep it in a safe place, readily accesible, educate your children about it, and hopefully yourself. The "readily accesible" part has killed many kids and made killers out of hot-heads.

Then, some night when you are laying in bed and hear some SCUMBAG rummaging around in your house, Remember your training and do what is necessary. Assess the situation...Is he pointing a gun at you? Does he have a knife? Does he have your 10 year old daughter by the throat and threatening to kill her. Material goods can be replaced...but can a daughter? What do you do? You, of course, do the right thing. Saddly enough these things happen. Just a hypothetical situation but these things do happen. If we don't have the right to bear arms I guess you take after him with a mop or a broom or something. Always dial 911, but it can take along time for law enforcement to get there. I stated it has never happened to me in 50 years or anyone I am close to. Even if I had a gun I could still end up dead right? We BOTH shoot and we both take a letheal hit. Is it Possible? Having a gun can create a false sence of security. Some people (including police officers) even get shot with their own guns sometimes.

I realize guns are distasteful to some folks but our right to possess them and defend our selves if necessary is a right that should be defended to the end. why? The NRA works very hard to that end.

As I said in the previous post, "There is nothing so futile as regret." Think about it.
My brother's friend's mother probably thinks about that everyday. Having a gun does not assure you your life or the lives of others. When you pulled a gun, it COULD have caused the guy to freak and cut your wife's throat. You had no idea what mental state he was in or if he cared about you shooting. LUCKILY your wife was unhurt, regret would have been you causing the guy to react and hurting someone.
Mark