Jimbo; Apples and oranges. Can you distinguish the difference between someone who offers a chip that used to be valued close to a thousand dollars down to $25 after a 600 piece hoard has been discovered, and a guy in the midwest who has hundreds, if not thousands of Playboy chips for sale that were selling for four figures .... and he is still trying to maintain the four-figure price? Give Rene a break on this issue. Yes, he has his shortcomings. We all do. I think that the T Bird chips that Rene sold were reasonably priced under the circumstances. If the guy selling high-value Playboy backup chips would do something similar, as Rene did, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Wouldn't you agree? If not, why not?