Greg, I think you are over looking something. Every chip is slabbed in some form or another. It's in a flip, or a binder or in an air-tight. At the shows when chips are offered for sale, the dealer has usually applied somewhere on the holder a grade for that chip too. Isn't that a form of slabbing? This unique group that I am debating has only one way of looking at things. They want to control how chips are sold or marketed, or collected by everyone. They don't have the right to do that. When people stop freedom of choice, it stops the growth of that venue. I myself am getting sick of their one-sided responses. The direct e-mails I have gotten supporting my position is unbelievable. They have all said they have given up with these people because there is no use trying to reason with them. If you continue to turn off enough people, you will not have anything meaningful or any real growth in this hobby. I just don't understand why they are all so afraid of. What are they hiding? But then again I'm starting to believe contrary to what they claim, they are in this for there own special interests. And Last as I have stated over and over, I don't own even one slabbed chip. But I do want the right for me and any other collector should he choose to buy and sell them without condemnation from a group of radicals.