You and Todd have apparently been looking for these chips for several months. During the last four or five years I have been scouring the area for these and other closed MS casino chips. A few years ago closed casino chips were rather easy to find. Today it is very dificult to find any except a few common ones. If there were lots of this new chip out there they should have surfaced by now. If I didn't believe this I would not have bought one from Todd!