Mike...A few months ago Rene had some fantasy chips for sale on his web site. Some of us take exception to this & it was pointed out on this board. Rene agreed to label them as fantasy chips. Bob Ginsburgh Fla (because we now know there are two of them) pointed out a week or two later this was still not done. Rene's excuse at the time I believe was he did not have the time yet. The convention sale of chips is another story. I do not need to defend Bob or Neal for that matter they stand on their own merits. I heard that story from many collectors Bob had the courage to post it, knowing what the response would be. A few hundred posts ago someone else asked Rene if he was the one selling chips. You can read his response yourself. In summation Neal is right just apologize & move on. We all make mistakes. There is an out here that is honorable. We need to put this to rest & move on. Looking forward to next years trading session & the "Best" convention ever.