John & Don, thanks for taking your time explaing e-bay will look into it more. I'm new to this stuff & just love this action will teach all here in Atlantic City what I can about these ways of chipping . Still checking it all out 6 mounths of this is sill all new. We have put webtv in store so new & old chippers can see all . If either of you get to Atlantic City stop in check out the store at 3011 boardwalk Atlantic City N.J. 08401 WE HAVE GONE CO-OP TO BRING CHIPPERS FROM ALL OVER IN.P/S WE invite anyone in to check us out & watch us grow .