Everything you say is true, and everything I wrote in this thread is also true.

The fact remains, though, that if people really wanted slabbing (say, the real high end collectors), they could have slabbed their chips. No one actually stopped them. The Club gave its opinion and, to some extent, tried to influence members away from slabbing, but it did not and could not have stopped a whole group from slabbing if it was really important to them and their continued presence in the hobby.

My point is that blaming the club for their being no slabbing and equating that with killing the hobby is nonsense, since people could still have slabbed their chips if that was really what they felt they needed to do.

Of course, the issue with who was going to do the grading and whether the volume of slabbing was going to be enough for the reputable companies to get involved, still remained. But, those are not the fault of the club. Cary's club bashing is, if you think hard about it, nonsense.

That is my point. Do you disagree, Barry?

Michael