hi, if your still alive , maybe you have heardof john scarne .he wrote 100s of books , put out a number of games , i hate to dump at goodwill , thought someone might like them there in the late 40-50si have collected them ,but seem very complicated to play , ive got 3 scarney , 2 scarney challenge , also other games , like rummy,craps,bingo, follow the arrow,las vegas whisk, and backgammon,anyone might like them? if live in vegas area ,let me know and can come and get them . p.s. look up john scarne on your computer ,to see what hes all about , jer