See, people can't even have a civil conversation in this thread without getting into the politics of it. All I said is no matter who people are backing, this shouldn't be this way. It makes the club look bad. I thought the goal of these clubs and this forum was to provide a positive place we can all enjoy the hobby. Two years ago I walked into the CCA meeting with no knowledge and a binder of casino chips I bought off of eBay because I needed a hobby, and it saddens me to see the people that kept me in the hobby and kept me coming back to Las Vegas for the meetings at each other's throats. I was hoping to be a longtime member of both clubs, but not if I have to watch all this unfold in the most ugly way.