Judy, I was curious about the time frame on most of the Chipco style Octagons you post. When were the earliest ones made? In a different vein, I took a photo of a chip from John Benedict's web site and found a picture of the casino it came from, the Cerecle International de Vichy. Do you have any idea of it's age. It's definitely old school. See the photo of the casino in the link below.