I know they aren't made anymore. I've spoken to Dave long ago about them. I'm not looking for them, unless someone has some of them used tat they want to get rid of. I wasn't looking to buy those new even if they were available. I'm looking to buy somewhere between 1 - 2 dozen of them, and I don;t want to spend 20 bucks a piece for them.

What I am looking for is a generic binder that will correctly handle the pages. No...I'm not looking for the pages, just simple plain binders to put the pages into.