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PayPal is the BUYERS best friend....
In Response To: Paypal only? Why? mad ()

With all due respect, I think a BUYER would be crazy to not use PayPal. I reproduce my recent post about this below. And if you are afraid of someone hacking into your accounts, etc., you can link it to a very small bank account, or no bank. Just use it for making credit card funded PayPal payments.

Here is my opinion on the matter, from two posts of mine:

With eBay and PayPal, the buyer is king -- the helpless seller is at the buyer's mercy. That is, if the buyer acts wisely. His great weapon is the credit card charge-back! He should always try to buy with PayPal using credit card-funded payments. Additionally, eBay and PayPal favor the buyer and help the buyer, probably because they fear a negative press (which loves buyer sob stories) and because contented buyers create eBay's monopoly marketplace. Once there is a great mass of buyers, the sellers will be drawn like a magnet and learn to accept the fraud against them as a statistical cost of doing business. One thing that is terrible about this is that a buyer nobody knows/with no reputation can lord it over a reputable seller with years of experience and great feedback. The eBay-PayPal system makes it easy for a buyer to defraud a seller. To give just one example, the buyer can claim/lie that the goods received were not as advertised (significantly different), and in effect he can keep the merchandise and get his money back (via charge-back if no other way). To me it is awful that the seller can't really force his own terms. He can't make insurance truly "optional" -- no matter what he states in his auction, he is responsible for delivery. In effect, he is forced to pay for delivery confirmation along with insurance, or absorb all the risks. Of course, he can demand a high shipping and handling charge from the buyer, but that discourages sales and is wasteful economically . Enough.

I don't want to go on a long tear here. I hate PayPal for a number of reasons, especially when I am in the role of a seller. To give just one example, all a buyer on eBay has to do is say the item was "significantly not as described" when he received it. The seller has no defense (in effect) against that claim. PayPal will give the money to the buyer and go after the seller. (And then there is always your credit card company to reimburse you, the buyer, if need be.)

For a buyer, PayPal and a credit card are wonderful protection. You should always use it when you can. On many eBay auctions I would ordinarily be afraid to place a large bid; but if I see that the seller accepts PayPal, that can make the decision to bid easy. ... .... ..... Also if you use PayPal and a credit card, you should never opt for insurance even if the seller says in the description that you assume the risk, etc, etc, if you don't opt for insurance. Ignore that! Especially if the PayPal logo thing in the auction boasts of $1000 PayPal buyer protection [$2000 now]. IT IS THE SELLER'S DUTY TO DELIVER THE ITEM TO YOU. Whatever he says to the contrary in the auction description is worthless. What I just said might not sound nice, and it might sound to you as against common sense, but believe what I said -- it is generally accepted eBay/PayPal/business practice to always make the seller responsible for delivery. If the seller is so concerned about insurance, he should include the insurance cost in his shipping-postage charge, thus forcing the buyer to pay for insurance!


Messages In This Thread

Paypal only? Why? mad
No PayPal? Why? grin
No need for PayPal you just need a PAL
Aussies are weird to begin with vbg
Funny that...it always chaps my drawers when...
Re: Funny that...it always chaps my drawers when..
Re: Funny that...it always chaps my drawers when..
What, the chapped drawers, or the cougar?
The cougar a real bummer let me tell you.
Agreed
Well Bill...
Other forms of payment are fine.....
Re: Other forms of payment are fine.....
Re: Other forms of payment are fine.....
Re: Other forms of payment are fine.....
What's a Daft? Some kinda Canadian Insult? vbg
Re: What's a Daft? Some kinda Canadian Insult? *vb
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl *
I Like It When A Seller Places Restrictions
Re: I Like It When A Seller Places Restrictions
like I said...Paypal is fine, however
Re: like I said...Paypal is fine, however
PayPal is the BUYERS best friend....
Re: Paypal only? Why? mad
Re: Paypal only? Why? mad
Re: Paypal only? Why? mad
PayPal is the BUYERS best friend....
Finally....a voice of reason. Thankyou! vbg
I WON'T SELL TO CANADA !!
Re: I WON'T SELL TO CANADA !!
RICK WHOW I STATE MY EXPERIENCE AND YOU GET
I just went with your quote Fred...
OK WE AGREE CANADA MAIL IS SLOW SO IF YOU
I no longer ship oranges to Frobisher Bay . grin
Re: I no longer ship oranges to Frobisher Bay . grin

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