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A calm take on this: seeing shill bid as a reserve
In Response To: I disagree... ()

You can put your maximum bid in and it might be $100 and the item might sell for $80 without shill bidders. If shill bidders are in the auction and bid you up to $95, then they have now cost you another $15. There is a loss here Mark and shill bidders do cost you more. Even though you are putting in your maximum bid, it isn't fair that shill bidders drive up the price.

Like everyone else on the thread, I am against shill bids.

But if you look at a shill bid as a kind of "reserve," you won't be so upset. To a large extent it is like a reserve in an auction. In the example above, you would still have to pay the $100 if there were no shills but the reserve was $100. My take is that the seller always wanted to get $100 one way or another. He would never let it go for $80. It is kind of self-centered to want him to do something he never would do: let it go for $80. (And if it is unrealistic for the seller to expect more than $80, the use of a shill is more costly in fees than a reserve.)

My approach is:
(1) don't worry about shills
(2) place my eSnipe bid the moment I see the auction.
(3) forget or ignore it from that point on, and wait for the end of the auction.

Robert

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I disagree...
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99% of them are trustworthy..
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There is something you can do about it...
Now you're talking sense Mike!
Resorting to insults?
If Mike was offended ...
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You are wrong...
I don't think so ...
Re: You are wrong...
Re: You are wrong...
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Nicely worded Michael...
Re: Nicely worded Michael...
Re: Nicely worded Michael...
So, shill bidding is fine with you?
Re: So, shill bidding is fine with you?
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BOY I HAVE SEEN THIS ARGUMENT WITH ARCHIE BEFORE!
Jealousy will get you nowhere John.
Re: Jealousy ?? NOW I AM LAUGHING OUT LOUD
I agree with Mike
Re: I don't agree with Mike
Re: I agree with Mike and Terry
Re: I agree with Mike and Terry
Re: I agree with Mike and Terry
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Sorry, I don't look at it that way ...
Archie..you're missing a very simple idea here....
Am I....?
Re: Yes, there is...
Re: Yes, there is...
Re: Yes, there is...
Re: Yes, there is...
Re: Yes, there is...
Re: Am I....?
....black and green widget ???
Archie. You are going to overpay
Re: Archie. You are going to overpay
You must be joking. We make the blanks to order
Re: Who pays $500 for a widget?
You have quite obviously never studied
Re: I beg your pardon...
Not the chinese fake ones I sell vbg
Re: You mean the alterred ones? rofl
Re: Who pays $500 for a widget?
Well, you do not have the silver one and it is
But if you were ever thinking ...
Re: I disagree...
Please re-read my posts....
Re: Please re-read my posts....
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Scott, Scott Scott ...
Re:Shill bidding is wrong
That is why it is important to report it...
You're 100 % correct Charles...
I agree with you disagreeing !
I agree with you agreeing with my agreement...
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Your screws are loose Archie...
So now you resort to insults??
My apoligies...
Apoligy accepted Mike.
Re: Apology accepted Mike.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit grin
I agree and gladly stoop..
Re: Your screws are loose Archie...
Also eBay benefits from shill bidding: more fees
Re: Your screws are loose Archie...
Re: I agree with you disagreeing !
Re: I agree with you disagreeing !
A calm take on this: seeing shill bid as a reserve
I like that analogy Robert ...
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Angela ...
Shilling is a felony though...
Re: Shilling is a felony though...
Re: A calm take on this: seeing shill bid as a res
Re: A calm take on this: seeing shill bid as a res
Hold it! I thought we agreed sniping is wrong! grin
Obvious Solution - Just bid at the End!!!
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Who was suspended..if I my ask..
Two people were suspended...
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Angela asks;Who do you trust to buy from on eBay?
Re: Angela's Shill Bidders?
See my post above for the names...
Who is Angela complaining about?
Re: Angela's Original Question
Re: Angela's Original Question
Re: Angela's Original Question
Re: Angela's Original Question
Re: Angela's Original Question
Mike WHICH POST there are dozens grin
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BINGO!!
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Mike will correct me if Im wrong ....
Re: Mike will correct me if Im wrong ....
Re: Mike will correct me if Im wrong ....
Re: BINGO!!
THANK YOU!!!
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Re: *rolf* *rolf* *rolf* To Funny
Re: rofl rofl rofl I am out of Practice
Please take your time..
What you were willing to pay IS the WHOLE point.
GOODNIGHT GRACIE ....
Re: What you were willing to pay IS the WHOLE poin
GOD be with you my Son.... grin
Re: Is there anyone here that would knowingly...
Re: Is there anyone here that would knowingly? Yes
YES!
Re: Good Job Archie!!!!!!!
Re: Good Job Archie!!!!!!! OOPS
Shill and Snipe weekly arrived today UK
No ISP problem on this end Gene ...
Re: No ISP problem on this end Gene ...
Re: No ISP problem on this end Gene ...
Re: No ISP problem on this end Gene ...
Maybe Im dreaming but didnt
What is this ... a tag-team match?? grin
But ....
So are you saying that as a result of all that
Nope ... I never said that David....
No absolutely NOT!!!
I can't say .....
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I noticed earlier grin
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I save my self a lot of aggrevation by

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