Hey Chuck; You know full well that there's a right way and a wrong way to pursue changes that club members wish to bring about in this club. It's through the Constitution and Bylaws. Joe Pavlick's methods are the WRONG way.... and yes, I'll admit to being one of those members who as you say ... "live and breathe the club". If you want to take it up with me in Las Vegas next week, you know where to find me.