My debit VISA won't work on either site. I've been using Neteller as an alternate route to play online poker, but I think I'll have to ask the folks at my credit union if they will stop blocking cash transfers that I initiate. It is my money, I should be able to spend it how I want to, and I shouldn't have to be required to wait for days while Neteller floats my cash when I want to make a withdrawal!