I told you a closet collector a lurker. is that so hard to swallow? tcr was the hot item for evey chip collector becauise it was the only guide published in the last two years. no crime not to own it mikey but if you are buying or selling you must know the values. you deal in high end chips so will it kill you to spend 50 to have the best information available? no reserve thats right but saying its worth 450 certainly would lead people to bid higher than they would if it was listed ata current 50 value. i'm not uninformed and have both books. you should toss #8 uses james book as the doorstop and invest 50 in what every chip buyer and seller is using to determine todays chip values which is tcr#10. i have boyh books and tcr#9. james book is nice and has real good pictures but is so far out of date its useless except as a doorstop. stop being so dishonest and list realistic values mikey. you know the trop chip is a 50 chip so just list it like that instead of fishing for suckers