Archie, you are wrong. I actually thought there were some good post in this thread and I thought I was very accommodating and professional. I don't think there is anything wrong with me having a different opinion on grading than you. I still respect you, Gene and others that feel differently. You are entitled to your opinions and I understand your position since you are a true collector and obviously have put a lot of time and effort into the hobby. As I have mentioned on several occasions, I am a collector of high grade and expensive chips. Nothing wrong so far, right? I also do not own any graded chips and don't approve of the 1-70 scale ICG uses. I will however, look into grading some of my chips if they or someone else uses a modified scale, like 1-10 or something close to that. I am being as honest with you as I can and would enjoy any communication with you, except you really have to get over this name bit. I am not this Walter Hunt or Babe person. If you want to keep going there, that is your choice. By the way, I don't have your book because I don't collect AC chips.