Gene, I met Rene at his show in Jan. for the first time. I did purchase a chip from him in the mail and was very satisfied with the chip. I was in LV, like thousands, to watch Basketball after 2 days of golfing. Since I was on vacation, remembering what time I ran into him was not a priority of mine, but it was sometime later in the evening, I'd guess around 9:00, maybe a little later. I can swear that as of that time he only had 200 chips plus a couple more he said he got for friends. Believe me, the promotion was well advertised at the cage and anyone visiting the cage could have purchased them. People visiting the cage are usually there cashing in winnings, so it would have been very easy for any number of Basketball fans or chip collectors to have purchased them as well. That's all I know and it seems a little unfair not to believe a mans word unless you have proof that he is lying.