Right, Larry. These Fitz 25's are good "Pictograph" candidates.

As for long cane variety (LCV) and short cane variety (SCV), the rule of thumb says that the LCV's are older, but not as old as the Christy & Jones (C&J). There is some overlap and the rule does not always hold true. Hey, nobody's perfect and no ones feelings get hurt. Blame Covington & Lueders.