At the urging of Rich H, I scanned all the crest & seal chips in my Montana collection. Except for possibly the fraternals, they would all be considered illegals, and the listings will eventually appear in Ed Hertel's guides. It's a varied assortment, including a couple that are only attributed, but there's always room for more! Yes, those are indeed the best conditions I could find for some of these chips! I'm afraid I only have duplicates of the W/W in blue and white if anyone is interested. Thanks Rich, it was a fun project. Maybe I'll do the other Northwest states some day. steve "mr pacific northwest"