Alan, FYI Phyllis did have a baby when she & her husband lived in Colorado. She presently lives in Boca Raton, Florida & as best as I can tell is no longer involved in chip collecting. She works for NMBA having some position in the public relations department. I met with her & her husband at Pete Rose's restaurant a year or so ago. They were just getting ready to move into their new home. I offered to buy all of her chips at face value & she had some goon throw me out of the place! I have this knack of getting thrown out of a number of classy places. I'm going to try to do it at the Trop in July, unless Bob Whiteman can protect me from the goons.