Hi Chuck; We ain't talking about Phil Jensen's chips here... or Phil's well-deserved very fine reputation in the chipping community. I'm certain that you know about the ebay abuses I'm speaking of. It's the commonly available stuff, that just about every chipper already has in their individual collections, that is being touted as "rare" that's got my ire. There is no way that 121 of the current chip offerings on ebay should have the description "rare" either in the title or in the text of chips being offered for sale.... and most sellers damn well know that to be a fact!