Pete; Now do the math on 0/00/1/2/3/ which is the five number bet John was referring to. BTW... A.C. still has single 0 roulette in a few properties. Usually it carries a higher minimum bet than the rest of the 0/00 tables. One thing that always amazes me is lots of players who are exceeding the miniumum table limits every spin on a 0/00 wheel, won't move down to the single 0 table and take advantage of the more favorable odds..... and freeing up a spot for us lower level players. Now in Vegas.... nobody plays roulette out there. Seems to be lots of space at any table one wishes to play at.