Ack, this thread has gotten me addicted to these darn Tahoe Village roulettes (well, I was already, <G> these are some of the most beautiful chips ever made). Thanks for the added info Gene, since the 183 that you mention were offered are small keys, that really changes the whole die cut picutre for those of us who are after one of each. The small keys were nearly unknown in ANY color or design before now. I can hardly wait until I see them for sale. Thanks again for the info.